. >> with terrorism -- taliban, al-qaeda -- they are synonymous in our minds? >> al qaeda it is terror group number one, but it is broader than that. there are terrorists all over the world. most people believe that terrorist -- there will be more terrorist groups in the future. >> that is kind of frightening. we never knew suicide bombers and things like that. now, all of a sudden, they will show up in countries all over the world, throw bombs, ied's. >> this form of terrorism was started in tamil. >> what is the form? >> suicide bombers, both male and female. was president bush -- >> was president bush on tiger when he used the phrase "war and terror -- "war on terror"? i think -- >> i think he was. it also needs to be understood that this is not a war on instruments. a can not always be fought by military means -- it cannot always be fought by military means, though that can be effective. there are a lot of different tactics to adopt in this war. it will go on for decades. >> in addition to creating fear, do the terrorists have clear-cut goals in mind when t